How to Make Coconut Milk Kefir

Lately I have been exploring in the world of coconut milk kefir! Our family has been consuming regular raw milk kefir for a few years now, but recently, we lost our frugal milk source, and I was forced to rethink and consider some other nutritious options. Enter…coconut milk kefir!

Kefir is typically made from cow’s milk that is fermented with kefir cultures. It is similar in taste and texture to a drinkable plain yogurt with a bit of a tangy flavor to it. It is known for many health benefits including boosting the immune system, stimulating digestion, protecting against the spread of harmful yeast overgrowth, lowering cholesterol, and guarding against cancer. It is a powerful probiotic that helps beneficial bacteria to thrive in the body.

Coconut milk is naturally rich in medium chain fatty acids (MCFAs). Two of the primary MCFAs found in coconut milk, lauric and capric acid, are known for supporting the body’s immune system. Coconut products contains monolaurin, a fatty acid found in human mother’s milk, which has proven antiviral, antibacterial, and fungal properties that support natural immunity. It has a creamy taste and texture that’s similar to cream (with half the fat and calories) or milk (when diluted). It tastes on the flavor of what you mix it with, making it ideal for both sweet and savory recipes. It is completely dairy, gluten, and soy free, making it the most nutritious option and alternative for the dairy intolerant.

When I searched online for information to make coconut milk kefir, I was surprised to see the serious lack of information on this topic. There appears to be two different options. Coconut water kefir and coconut milk kefir. I wanted to make coconut kefir with coconut milk because it is cheaper and easier. I am all for simplicity. Most of my searching and emailing different companies (Weston A Price & Body Ecology) came up with no responses, so I had to venture out on my own with some help from Julie at Cultures for Health.

Coconut milk kefir works beautifully with milk kefir grains yielding a thick and creamy coconut cream topping for your coffee, ice cream, smoothies, or curries with all the healthy bacterial benefits! Check out Healthy Cooking Coaches recipes for Strawberry & Vanilla ice cream using coconut kefir. You can use it as whipped cream substitute on top of pancakes or waffles (sweetening as desired) or use it in replacement of buttermilk or water in many baked goods recipes. There are no end to the ideas for its usage.

For a tutorial on making coconut water kefir, visit The Nourishing Gourmet or Body Ecology Diet.

Coconut Milk Kefir

1 quart glass jar
2 Tbsp milk kefir grains (available through Cultures for Health)
2 cans unsweetened undiluted coconut milk  or 1 quart So Delicious Coconut Milk (It has been confirmed that Native Forest Coconut Milk is canned in a BPA-free can)

Directions:

  1. Place the milk kefir grains in the quart size glass jar and cover with coconut milk. Carefully mix together with a non-metal spoon (please forgive my forgetfulness on this point in the video!).
  2. Cover loosely with a towel or cloth napkin and allow the coconut kefir to culture on the countertop for 12-36 hours.
  3. After 12 hours, check the coconut kefir every few hours so you can remove the kefir grains as soon as it reaches the desired consistency. If you let it sit too long it will become more sour and very thick, making removal of the grains more difficult.
  4. Remove grains and store them covered with a small amount of milk in refrigerator between batches or follow up immediately with another batch.
  5. Place a lid over the remaining coconut milk kefir in the jar and store in the refrigerator. Note that it will get significantly thicker in the refrigerator as it cools, so it is a perfect consistency to use as whipping cream and such.

Cultures for Health suggests that it may take a batch or two for the milk kefir grains to adapt to coconut milk but if the milk doesn’t kefir properly during the adjustment period, it is still safe to cook with. They do recommend returning the grains to cow or goat milk periodically to refresh them (and they can adapt back to making raw cow/goat milk kefir).

Here’s my little video tutorial:

Can I use kefir packets to make coconut milk kefir? What if I am dairy intolerant?

I originally thought that kefir packets would be a better alternative than grains for those with dairy allergies. I asked Julie at Cultures for Health about her opinion and this is what she shared: Powdered packets should work with coconut milk but since they are in a dairy carrier, they’re not really going to be an improvement on the grains and it’s questionable how well they will re-culture (using a small amount from the previous batch to make the next batch) making them potentially a costly option.  It might actually be less costly to occasionally buy more kefir grains than to buy lots of packets of kefir starter. We’ve taken to trying to steer the dairy intolerant to water kefir for their probiotics for this reason. Plus kefir packets aren’t really a natural culture and contain less than 10 probiotic strains compared to the 30 or so contained in kefir made with grains.

So there are options to try and experiment with, but the best option might be to stick with water kefir grains and the coconut juice method if you have dairy allergies. Packets can be used if you do not have allergies but the best results will come from using grains and rotating back and forth from culturing in coconut milk to cow/goat’s milk.

Can I dilute the coconut milk to make it stretch further?

Unfortunately you don’t want to dilute the coconut milk since that would leave less sugar for the kefir grains to eat and potentially damage the grains.

Can I make coconut milk kefir with water kefir grains?

Julie at Cultures for Health shares, Dom’s kefir site claims you can acclimate water kefir grains to milk (but I don’t believe he mentions anything about coconut milk) but I personally haven’t tried it and never heard from anyone who has.  If you happen to have a significant surplus of water kefir grains though, it might be worth trying.  It certainly would be great for people with dairy allergies—normally if someone has an allergy we just steer them to water kefir.”

Is there any benefit of making coconut water/juice kefir over coconut milk kefir?

Julie again shares, “Both coconut water kefir and coconut milk kefir would contain basically the same probiotic benefits so at that point I think it would just be a matter of the nutritional differences in the original liquids.  Coconut water is more of an electrolyte type beverage (I keep some around for when we get sick but beyond that we don’t drink very much) whereas coconut milk is a very concentrated source of healthy fats.  Both are perfectly healthy but I think they just ultimately have different purposes.”

Can I used powdered coconut milk?

A few readers suggested below that powdered coconut milk is a cheaper alternative. I understand that powdered milk products are best to be avoided. “It is manufactured through a spray drying process of raw unsweetened coconut cream. This is very different from the more widely available and coarser desiccated coconut which is made by grating machines that shred the white coconut flesh.

When coconut milk powder is spray dried, this has the effect of mixing oxygen (from the air) into the powder, under very hot drying conditions. As a consequence, coconut milk powder is “oxidized” and will go rancid quite quickly if not refrigerated and consumed within one or two days. This process also has the effect of increasing nitrate levels in powdered milk, whether it be dairy or coconut powdered milk. High levels of nitrates can increase the risk of cancer.” (The Incredible Coconut Book)

Coconut kefir does exist on the market now thanks to the efforts of So Delicious, but it cannot be compared with the homemade variety! Read more about that here. Making it yourself can always save you money and produce the highest nutrient content!

Post Author

This post was written by who has written 962 posts on Passionate Homemaking.

Lindsay Edmonds is first a lover of Jesus, wife, mother of three, homemaker, and writer. She is the editor of Passionate Homemaking since its beginning four years ago. She loves inspiring women around the world toward simple, natural, and intentional living for the glory of God.

114 Responses to “How to Make Coconut Milk Kefir”

  1. Michal Oct 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm #

    I’m getting ready to switch to coconut milk kefir–I’ve been making kefir for a year, but now we’re going to eliminate dairy for a few weeks (suspected allergies). How will I know when my grains need to be “refreshed” in cow’s milk again? H

    • Lindsay Oct 19, 2011 at 1:00 pm #

      Unforuntately, I don’t really know if there is any clear sign that signals whether they need to be refreshed. I just understand it needs to be done every few times.

  2. RJ Jul 31, 2011 at 8:36 pm #

    Most canned Coconut milk have preservatives and stablizers added. Will this be a problem in making Kefir?

    • Lindsay Aug 01, 2011 at 6:05 am #

      I have not heard whether or not that is the case. I do not believe there are preservatives unless they specifically label them on the can. I have never had a problem making coconut milk kefir with Native Forest or Thai Kitchen brands.

  3. Mirjam de Rijk Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45 am #

    I am trying with coconut milk I buy at Trader Joes but it doesn’t thicken at all. Do you have any suggestions?

    • Emily Jul 09, 2011 at 4:41 pm #

      Hi Mirjam! I had the same problem with the Trader Joes kind. I believe it’s because it’s not the full fat coconut milk that Linsday uses. When I bought the Thai Kitchen brand full fat coconut milk, it thickened perfectly.

  4. Dia May 23, 2011 at 9:27 am #

    Linsay – thanks for writing this!

    I’ve been making coconut milk kefir for a couple of years now, & only ‘refreshed’ my grains on local goatsmilk sometime last year … thinking of doing it again, as I only have about a Tbsp of grains (or getting some back from a friend who uses cows milk & always has TONS of grains! tee hee) … I wrote about it, too
    http://vestellasvale.blogspot.com/2010/04/happy-eostre-goddess-of-divine-female.html

    I also use the tinned milk, & go through about 3 cans a week. I thin mine with 1/2 C well water (from country friends, not fluoridated) & add about 1/2 tsp OG brown sugar to give the bacteria a bit more ‘food’ … Carolyn – it’s really so simple, even if you’re busy, it takes longer to write about than to actually make!!

    I usually reserve about 1/4 C plain coconut milk for fresh use, & use that in my tea, but use kefir for most everything else! Smoothies with frozen fruit, frozen kefir, a dollop on quinoa/amaranth … I got my grains from Marilyn Kefirlady, who cultures hers on goatsmilk (http://www.kefirlady.com/) & she recommends making kefir cheese! (has instructions in the pages she sends with the culture)

  5. Kim Apr 11, 2011 at 5:55 am #

    In the video you use Thai Kitchen. Most canned coconut milks are high in BPAs. One brand that claims to be BPA-free is Native Forest. It’s organic, too.

  6. April at Kitchen-Blender-Reviews Feb 03, 2011 at 8:04 pm #

    Lindsay,

    This is a great tutorial on making coconut kefir. I just received my kefir grains and have been using pasturized goat’s milk until my raw source comes available. The milk has a goaty taste and is very prominant in my smoothies and such. I am still making small 1/2 cup batches at a time to grow the grains. Do you know if the kefir eventually mask the goaty taste of the milk? My kids call it a ‘farmyard taste’. :)

    I have been looking for more info on coconut kefir before trying milk grains in coconut milk. :) You have summed up what I have found and more. I think I am ready to make coconut kefir now. Thanks for the tips and ideas on how to use the final product.

    • Lindsay Feb 03, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

      Fresh Goats milk is a strong flavor that is hard to mask. You may just try using less to build up their taste to it.

      • April at Kitchen-Blender-Reviews Feb 04, 2011 at 11:35 am #

        Oddly enough the raw goats milk I have had did not have the goaty taste. It had something to do with separating the males from the females. That is why I thought it odd this pasteurized goat’s milk tasted goaty and sold in stores.

        I think you are right, though. I’ll have to use less at a time until I use this 1/2 gallon up. Then I’ll keep it only for my in between batches of Coconut Kefir.

        Thanks for your response.

        • Becky Apr 12, 2011 at 8:43 pm #

          Lindsay, the goat milk tastes best if it is super fresh, and should be chilled asap after being milked. Store-bought goat milk is never as fresh or good, but the raw goat milk if treated properly is never goaty. If it is, it wasn’t chilled as fast as it should be or the goat is developing a mastitis.

  7. Natasha @ Saved by the Egg Timer Jan 09, 2011 at 7:34 am #

    I have made this and now want to make a batch with the little left over. Can you do that with kefir or coconut kefir? Do I have to start fresh each time? Thanks for you response….hope I don’t sound like such a newbie but I am :)

    • Lindsay Jan 09, 2011 at 4:09 pm #

      You don’t need any from the previous batch, just rotate your grains between cow’s milk and coconut milk for the best results.

  8. Emily Jan 02, 2011 at 9:43 pm #

    Hi! I have made coconut milk kefir twice now, once with a starter and once with grains. Both times it came out pretty runny still. It did taste sour, but never thickened up. I let it sit for almost 24 hours each time. I tried to read through the comments to see if anyone had the same experience, but I didn’t see it. Anyhow, just wondering if there’s something different I should try. I used Trader Joe’s brand coconut milk, which is “light,” wondering if that might make a difference…

    • Lindsay Jan 05, 2011 at 2:39 pm #

      It would only really thicken up once you put it in the fridge. Coconut does that when it is below 76 degrees. The light version would certainly not give it as much thickness as a whole coconut milk version, and not half as nutritious either.

      • Emily Jan 05, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

        Thank you! I’ll have to try and find the full fat version. For some reason, Trader Joe’s only carries the light one. I might have to trek over to the Whole Foods.

        • catherine rose Feb 01, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

          In my opinion, in Northern CA, WFM coconut milk is terrible for making keifer. It is super lumpy, so unless you pre-blend it to gain a smooth consistency first, you get lumpy keifer.

  9. Krista Jul 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm #

    I just bought some water kefir grains today so I”m very new to the kefir world, but I wanted to share my source of inexpensive coconut milk. I make mine from dried unsweetened coconut. I do not buy organic yet because of budget constraints, so the coconut I buy is $1.60/lb. There is 6 cups of coconut to a pound. Each cup of dried coconut make 1.5 cups of rich, creamy coconut milk, for a total of 9 cups of milk/lb. That’s about $0.18/cup.

    Here is a good how-to on making coconut milk from dried coconut:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpxPoizVT9c

    When I make mine I just do all the water at once, I’m too lazy to strain twice. The harder you squeeze your coconut pulp the fattier your milk will be.

    I hope this helps!

    -Krista

  10. Elizabeth May 27, 2010 at 11:15 am #

    Hello! Thanks for this wonderful info. I’m wondering if anyone has made hemp-seed kefir? Thanks!

  11. withintheword May 26, 2010 at 8:29 pm #

    how do I make the coconut milk kefir while using just the thai kitchen coconut milk? I have 2 batches going, each with 1 Tbs kefir and 1 can of coconut milk. they are on their 2nd batch b/c of the sour taste- how do I cut down on this and should I combine the two batches? is is ok to see almost a mold like substance growing?

  12. Withintheword May 26, 2010 at 8:25 pm #

    Do you have to use a combination of the so delicious coconut milk and the thai kitchen, or can you just use the thai kitchen c.m.? I am new to making kefir and I have used 2 batches of 1 can of thai kitchen coconut milk to 1 tbs of milk kefir- they are on their 2nd batch since I did not like their sour- how would you reccommend I make this while using just the thai kitchen coconut milk? how do I vut down on the sour taste? Thank you!

  13. Jason May 23, 2010 at 10:18 pm #

    Oh and my last question…

    That SO Delicious Unsweetened Coconut Milk you have has 0 grams of sugar.

    So what exactly are you feeding the grains with?

    I was under the impression that we needed to use something with sugar in it.

    Maybe the original So Delicious Coconut Milk would be better??

    Let me know… : )
    canefan18@hotmail.com

  14. Jason May 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm #

    Is coconut milk kefir ok for hypoglycemics?

  15. Ami Apr 06, 2010 at 1:20 am #

    This is so helpful! I'm in my first couple of weeks of making kefir, and it's so hard to tell if what I'm doing is right since I've only had the lifeway kefir smoothies before. I'm making it from raw cow's milk, still whole from a jersey cow. Glad to hear that if we eat the little tiny grains it's okay!
    It looks a lot thicker than your coconut kefir, almost as thick as my yogurt. That's after 24 hours and not refrigerating the grains at all.

    So what should it taste like? Because we've been making smoothies and they taste completely creamy with no sour taste compared to yogurt smoothies. We even used some in rice pudding, just a little, and it didn't taste sour or tangy. Before I refrigerate the finished kefir, the smell about knocks me over. But when its chilled there's not really any smell.

    Here's my question: It's pretty thick and it tastes really creamy. Is that normal?

    • Lindsay Apr 06, 2010 at 12:26 pm #

      Yes, that sounds right! The level of thickness will just depend upon how long you let it sit out for. 24-36 hours is the estimated time frame. Coconut milk kefir will get very solid once it is refrigerated…I totally spaced on mentioning that. I don’t think you need to worry about what it tastes like. You will know when it is too sour. ;) It is very potent when it has cultured too long. It will affect the taste of your smoothies…trust me.

  16. Dia Mar 31, 2010 at 9:29 pm #

    Great post & tutorial!
    I’ve been making coconut milk kefir for over a month now, & love it!! I ordered grains (both milk & water kefir) from Marilyn Kefirlady – the milk kefir grains have adapted beautifully to culturing coconut milk. I have a source of local goats’ milk, & have switched to that a couple of times – it never sets as well as the coconut milk! I use one tin of OG coconut milk (have tried several brands, & they are all fine) & usually add 1/2 tin of water, as Dr Fife suggests for a more potable consistency. I add ~ 1/4 tsp calcium/mag. powder to the milk.
    Dr Mary Newport has reversed her husbands early onset Altzheimer’s using coconut oil, (her paper on this is being presented at an international conference this spring) & I’ve read a suggestion (Dr Fife?) on drinking ~ 1/2 – 1 C coconut milk before bed to prevent blood sugar drops (esp important for folks with B. S issues) – the kefir works great for this!
    If it’s extra thick, I use it as kefir cheese – great on rice cakes, etc. I got a canning funnel, & use a wooden spoon when I’m straining (Marilyn feels using a stainless steel funnel is fine – very brief contact, & it hasn’t been a problem for me)

    • Jason May 23, 2010 at 9:35 pm #

      Hi Dia,

      I see where you said coconut milk kefir works great before to control blood sugar.

      So it would be ok for hypoglycemics?

      I’m hypoglycemic…
      I finished my first batch of coconut milk kefir tonight and I added stevia (maybe too much) and about 20-30 minutes aftr I was having blood sugar issues.

      SweetLeaf Stevia Liquid Vanilla Creme
      Thai Kitchen Coconut Milk
      Kefir Grains

      What could be causing me the problems?

  17. chrissy Mar 26, 2010 at 8:12 pm #

    So have you tried using the So Delicious Coconut milk to make yogurt? I thought since it worked for kefir it should work for yogurt, but afte 24 hours it wasn’t fully set and I wasn’t sure if I should let it sit longer or if it wasn’t gonna work at all ? :) any thoughts?

    • Lindsay Mar 28, 2010 at 11:23 am #

      No, I have not. I understand that it will not set up as well as store bought coconut milk yogurt because they had stabilizers and such to it. It can be done according to Cultures for Health, but you will get a very thin yogurt.

  18. Kate Mar 14, 2010 at 11:14 am #

    Lindsay… how much grains do the Kefir starters contain? I tried to see on cultures for health but couldn’t find it. they come in a pouch.. but how much is in one pouch?

    • Lindsay Mar 17, 2010 at 8:46 am #

      I’m not sure. You’d have to ask Julie at Cultures for Health. She is always very prompt. There is a difference between the dehydrated kefir grains and kefir packets which are a powered starter.

  19. Lucy Mar 10, 2010 at 7:35 am #

    I’m confused…you switched to coconut milk because you lost your “frugal” dairy source. But isn’t coconut milk a lot more expensive than cow’s milk? I’m new to your site and don’t know much about health food. Am I missing something. Maybe you can’t make kefir from pasturized milk. Thanks.

    • Lindsay Mar 10, 2010 at 8:33 am #

      I was referring to raw cow’s milk. It is more expensive to come by than coconut milk.

      • Allie Apr 18, 2011 at 7:29 pm #

        I know this post is older & it’s about kefir not yogurt, but I’m trying to plan my food budget & assumed that coconut milk yogurt would be much cheaper to make than raw milk yogurt, because raw milk is $18 a gallon here (& I’ve yet to hear of someone paying more than that), so that’d be $4.50 for a quart. But the BPA free cans of organic coconut milk, from a co-op, are $2 a can, which is only 13.5 ounces. So I would need two & a half cans to make a quart, which makes it $5. So either my math is very bad or it’s actually cheaper for me to use raw milk instead of coconut milk. Help?!?

  20. Misty Mar 10, 2010 at 2:26 am #

    I was wondering how often you need to transfer the kefir grains back to milk? Also, there is mention of a transition process as it is adjusting. How do you know if it has adjusted okay for you to drink and not just cook with?

    • Lindsay Mar 10, 2010 at 8:35 am #

      I have not had any problems with an adjustment period as Cultures for Health mentioned. You can use it right away and not just to cook with. I transfer back to milk for kefiring every two batches.

  21. Tutti Mar 09, 2010 at 5:07 am #

    So, does anyone know if kefir can be made with Almond milk, since it can be made with coconut milk?

  22. Darlene Mar 07, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    A bit of a side topic – do you know if you can make kombucha without using tea? I don’t drink tea as part of my religious observances and wondered if there was a substitute that could be used to brew Kombucha.

    • Lindsay Mar 08, 2010 at 8:30 am #

      I do not think so, but I would google it.

  23. Heather Mar 07, 2010 at 1:18 pm #

    If I make kefir using coconut milk and then have to return the grains to regular milk, do I have to use something other than ultra-pasteurized milk –like Organic Valley’s Non-homogenized Whole Milk or ???

    I found raw milk at a local store but they have a sign saying it is only for pet consumption…The share in the cow really is too expensive for our budget :)

    Thanks!

    heather

    • Lindsay Mar 08, 2010 at 8:37 am #

      You can kefir with any kind of cows milk you have accessible to you. I would prefer raw, non-homogenized or organic, but if not available use what you have. Most states have to say that raw milk is only for pet consumption. It is legally required to cover their backs. You can certainly drink it! Honestly, more people get sick from pasturized milk over rawmilk…so our pets will be healthier than us. I would buy it if I were you.

    • Hannah Jun 15, 2010 at 5:29 pm #

      It only says “for pet consumption” because in some states it’s illegal to sell raw milk for human consumption. Saying “Pet consumption” is how they get around those laws.

  24. crystal Mar 06, 2010 at 4:42 pm #

    Does anyone know how long you can store cow’s milk kefir grains (in water) for? I havent made kefir in 2 months and the grains have been sitting in my fridge in some water ever since. Are they still okay to use??

    • Gail Mar 10, 2010 at 12:21 pm #

      I’m wondering about this, too. Except I’ve been keeping my kefir grains in raw milk in the fridge. Mine have probably been in there for 3 or 4 months.

      Anyone know?

      I’ll also go over to the Cultures for Health website and see what they say…

      • Janette Mar 10, 2010 at 6:33 pm #

        In my experience I almost lost my kefir grains by neglecting them in the refrigerator. The milk turned really thick and then when I tried using the grains my kefir was very runny and not thick at all. It took several batches for them to come back to life again. That was from neglecting my grains for around 2 weeks. I’m not sure if yours will be ok after 2 months of neglect unless you have been changing the milk out every week. From what I understand the grains are still active in the refrigerator just slowed down some so if they have enough milk to live on they are ok but the milk needs to be changed every so often. Hope this info helps and hope your grains aren’t totally gone.

        • Katie Mar 11, 2010 at 9:31 am #

          Well that might explain why mine aren’t working very well right now! I shan’t give up hope yet then. I’ll keep kefir-ing for a few more days/weeks and see if they come back to life!

          • Sherry Aug 25, 2010 at 1:14 pm #

            If you need to give the grains a break, rather than leave them in the refrigerator, put them with a little milk in a zip lock bag and freeze them, or dry them out. Either way, they will last a very long time. It may take a couple of batches to rev them back up again, but they always come back just fine for me :-)

  25. Kate Mar 06, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    You mentioned in the video about the 1/2 gallon having no sweetness to it, and you prefer the can over the 1/2 gallon because of that. it might be obvious, but the reason (from what I saw) is that the 1/2 gallon is UNsweetened, and since the can does not specify that it’s unsweetened it will be sweetened. Hence having a sweeter taste to it.

    • Lindsay Mar 08, 2010 at 8:50 am #

      No, the Thai Kitchen is not sweetened either. It says that right on the can. Using a sweetened variety could damage the grains. I believe it is a quality difference or the So Delicious brand could be diluted.

      • Kate Mar 09, 2010 at 1:57 pm #

        So sorry!

        I was at the store today, and say the Thai kitchen organic coconut milk, and thought of you! I don’t have any kefir grains, and I was just running in for a few things. The can of CM, was around $2.59. And it did say unsweetened on it. So I do apologize, again.

        Oh, and if anyone is wanting a less caloric OCM.. they have a lite version. calorie wise the 15 oz container has 120 calories per serving, was as the lite version had 50 calories per serving. By Thai Kitchen as well.

  26. Erin Mar 05, 2010 at 3:36 pm #

    lindsay, i haven’t read through all of the comments, but i was wondering, what nutritional differences are there between homemade yogurt and kefir? maybe more available enzymes because of the fermentation process? thanks!

    • Lindsay Mar 06, 2010 at 1:22 am #

      Please review the others comments as we have discussed this thoroughly.

  27. Michelle Mar 05, 2010 at 10:04 am #

    Hi Lindsay!

    I just started the Body Ecology diet this week. On Sunday I made my first batch of coconut water kefir (with BED’s kefir starter packet) and opened it for the first time last night. It was different than I expected. From the side of my glass jar there looked to be a slight gray line at the top of the kefir but from the top it looked normal (yellowish-clear). Do you know if this is normal? I was kinda scared to drink it. Is there any chance it can go bad? I had it wrapped in a towel under my bed for 4 days to let it culture.

    I would love to try the coconut milk kefir! Do you know if it would be allowed on the BED, since it’s not mentioned?

    Thanks! I love your site!

    Here’s a link to my coconut kefir making… http://undeservingofgrace.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-finally-braved-it.html

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 12:40 pm #

      I do not know personally if that is normal. I have not tried the coconut water kefir method. Yes, even in the BED tutorial she uses the meat from the coconut to make a milk kefir, it appears. So I am sure you can consume coconut milk on that diet.

      • Michelle Mar 05, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

        Oh great! Then I’ll have to pick up some cans at Whole Foods and give it a try. I LOVE coconut milk but wasn’t sure that I could eat it. Thank you!

  28. Staci Mar 05, 2010 at 9:59 am #

    I did find a cheaper way of making coconut milk. In the past I googled it but I can’t remember the name of the site now. I use organic dried shredded coconut. I put one to one and a half cups coconut in the blender with hot water and blend 3 minutes, strain through cheese cloth. Then reuse the coconut for a second washing, this give a thinner milk. The first washing will still get the coconut cream on the top, once cooled. Once the cream is congealed on top I put it all back in the blender (usually the next day)and just blend till mixed, the cream does not seperate back out again. I love this coconut milk, it has a great taste and texture. I don’t know about sugar content for kefir, but it is great to drink by itself.

    • Tutti Mar 09, 2010 at 5:06 am #

      Is the site you’re referring to Tropical Traditions?

  29. Jeannie Mar 05, 2010 at 9:25 am #

    Thank you for sharing your tips and the link to Cultures For Health I have been trying to locate Kefir and Kombucha starter kits and wholla you share the website… Their prices seem very reasonable as well as the shipping so that is a plus… Look forward to seeing what more you have to share in your journey!

  30. simply sarah Mar 05, 2010 at 8:20 am #

    Just wondering if you have ever made kombucha tea? I am currently growing my own scoby and hope to have kombucha within the next week. It is chuck-full of probiotics. Also has a tart/tangy taste. With it costing $4 for one bottle, I figured I’d better make my own before going broke! lol!

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 10:55 am #

      Yes, I have made kombucha in the past and gave a full tutorial here on my blog.

  31. amanda Mar 05, 2010 at 7:19 am #

    This is so neat! How perfect for those lactose intolerant kiddo’s out there! I personally am excited about making it because we cannot afford raw milk. I haven’t made kefir in so long. This sounds like it’s an amazing alternative. Thank you so much. I’m sharing this like crazy online!

  32. Naomi Mar 05, 2010 at 5:42 am #

    Never heard of coconut milk kefir before, but am so glad to read it! I’m looking for more ways to get probiotics into my dairy-intolerant girls, and someone just gave me dairy kefir grains, so this fits the bill perfectly! Thanks!

  33. Liberty Mar 05, 2010 at 5:17 am #

    Hi Lindsay,
    I was just wondering about using pasteurized milk that is not homogenized. Would you still get the same benefits as with raw milk???

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 10:54 am #

      Definitely not the same benefits because you don’t get the full nutrients in the milk but you will glean good probiotics from kefiring. Many people who don’t have raw milk will only use pasturized milk for kefiring and culturing because they can get the best out of the milk throughthat process.

  34. Krissy Mar 04, 2010 at 11:11 pm #

    Native Forest Organic canned coconut milk is BPA free (which is important in such a high fat content food such as coconut). Coconut Secret will hopefully have a glass jar option available sometime later in the year.

  35. Erin Wilson Mar 04, 2010 at 9:29 pm #

    A very timely post Lindsay! I was just talking with girlfriends about coconut kefir yesterday. I make raw cow’s milk kefir but thought this would be fun to try. I have always read you don’t want to use metal when handling the grains but noticed you used a metal spoon. Any thoughts on this?
    Blessings to you! Erin
    BTW…what muffin recipe is that you made? They look delicious!

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

      A simple forgetfulness on my part. As I mentioned in the recipe, you should use a non-metal spoon. AS to the recipe for the muffins, I used an adapted version of this recipe to make it more nutritious. I will have to share it soon because it was awesome!

  36. Susie Wankerl Mar 04, 2010 at 8:09 pm #

    When we began using milk kefir years and years ago, I found a recipe for making my own kefir by just using a small amount (maybe 1/4 cup) plain kefir as a starter (like using some plain yogurt as a starter for making more yogurt) and then adding it to milk and letting it culture on the counter. Is there a reason that this would not work as well as using kefir grains?
    Great tutorial, by the way. I’m eager to try this! Thanks!

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

      Kefir packets are usually the starting point for making this kind of culture starter for your kefir. You use the packet to make your first batch and then use a portion from that batch to make following batches. But you can only re-cultured it up to about 7 times before it looses its effectiveness, and then you have to start again with another packet. Plus, as I mentioned in the post: kefir packets aren’t really a natural culture and contain less than 10 probiotic strains compared to the 30 or so contained in kefir made with grains. Kefir grains are a more nutritious method and last indefinitely and reproduce if you care for them properly.

  37. Emily Mar 04, 2010 at 7:33 pm #

    I’m wondering too about the difference between yogurt and kefir as far as health benefits. I make my own yogurt to use for smoothies. Should I make kefir instead or do you make both?

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 1:12 pm #

      According to Dr. Mercola and others, “While both Kefir and yogurt are cultured milk products, they contain different types of beneficial bacteria. Yogurt contains transient beneficial bacteria that keep your digestive system clean and provide food for the friendly bacteria that already are present. Kefir actually helps to colonize your intestinal tract — a feat that yogurt cannot match.

      Additionally, Kefir contains several major strains of friendly bacteria not commonly found in yogurt: Lactobacillus Caucasus, Leuconostoc, Acetobacter species, and Streptococcus species. It also contains beneficial yeasts, such as Saccharomyces Kefir and Torula Kefir, which help balance the intestinal flora, including promotion of beneficial yeast in the body by penetrating the mucosal lining. They form a virtual SWAT team that housecleans and helps strengthen the intestines.

      Kefir’s active yeast and bacteria may provide more nutritive value than yogurt by helping digest the foods that you eat and by keeping the colon environment clean and healthy. The curd size of Kefir is smaller than yogurt, so it’s also easier to digest, making it an ideal food for babies**, the elderly, and anyone with digestive health concerns.

      So yes, kefir is superior to yogurt…and I never stop making it even if I don’t have time or energy to make yogurt as well.

  38. Emilee Mar 04, 2010 at 5:14 pm #

    I love all the give away info. I was just listening to truth calkins talk aout making coconut kefir with fresh coconut water and he said that if you don’t have kefir starter you can make it as you go but you have to drink it with like a day or to. The interview was on oneradionetwork.com. just search under truth calkins.

  39. Deanna Mar 04, 2010 at 4:31 pm #

    I was wondering, is there a source of coconut milk that doesn’t come in a can? I’m pregnant and really trying to stay away from the BPA in cans. I’ve looked and haven’t found any. Does anyone else know of any non-canned sources of coconut milk?

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

      Apparently, Native Forest Coconut Milk is BPA free, plus you could also use the SO Delicious brand in the cardboard container as I showed in the video.

  40. Katie Mar 04, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Uh oh! You lost your raw milk…something I should know about DVC not coming to Vancouver anymore? I love my raw milk so I am hoping they are not planning on stopping this delivery. I also have a question for you about milk or coconut kefir. How do you keep your grains from getting lost in the kefir? I pour mine (kefir) out through a cheesecloth but there are clumps of milk and cream, combined with the grains left in the cheesecloth. Is it okay to just put all of the clumps (grains and milk) into another jar for refilling and culturing or do I need to fish out the tiny grains before reusing? Hope I’m making sense!! :)

    • Lindsay Mar 04, 2010 at 4:22 pm #

      Hey Katie,
      No, DVC is still coming, and that is what we use now, but I previously had a cheaper source so I was able to get more and fit it in the budget. About straining, I think it is unnecessary work. I just use a spoon or my fingers (if they are not up at the top) to pull them out. I found if you strain you loose alot of good kefir. Sometimes they are harder to find but I always manage. Skip the straining and save yourself some time and prevent waste. You can always each any tiny kefir clumps. Just keep the big clumps. Hope that helps!

      • Katie Mar 04, 2010 at 7:51 pm #

        Oh thank you so much Lindsay! I will not be so crazy now about straining and worrying. You saved me a lot of anxiety just now :) By the way, I have used coconut water with water kefir grains and loved it. Add some fresh strawberries and it’s almost like dessert!

  41. Celena Mar 04, 2010 at 1:40 pm #

    Thanks so much for posting this Lindsay! I love your blog. My son has dairy allergies so I’ve been discovering the new world of coconut milk and love it! Haven’t tried making coconut keifer yet, but have been seriously considering it. Marillyn at Just Making Noise also has a recipe for coconut keifer, although I don’t think it’s quite as thorough as yours. She does say though that either water or milk grains can be used to make the keifer. Haven’t tried it yet so can’t tell you for sure but will let you know when I do. You can check out her blog here: http://just-making-noise.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-make-coconut-kefir.html . She also has a link there for coconut lime sorbet which looks great! Blessings!

  42. Mackenzi Mar 04, 2010 at 12:33 pm #

    I am totally new to all of this and trying to ease in so my question may seem very elementary. I have just started making my own yogurt…what is the comparison of yogurt to kefir? Should I prioritize incorporating kefir into our diet over homemade yogurt?

    • Kate Mar 04, 2010 at 4:47 pm #

      Mackenzi,
      I was wondering about that as well. I found this website which seemed helpful in answering that question:
      http://www.kefir.net/kefiryogurt.htm
      Thank you for the demonstration Lindsay, your blog is very informative, I really enjoy reading it!
      ~Kate

      • Mackenzi Mar 05, 2010 at 5:20 pm #

        Thank you Kate! That is perfect and answers my question…sounds like kefir is the way to go! -Mackenzi

  43. Krystal Mar 04, 2010 at 12:27 pm #

    Wow, this is very interesting. I think I should look into kefir some more. I have never even heard about it, but it kinda sounds good.

    Love your blog lindsday!
    -Krystal

  44. Tutti Mar 04, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    This could not be more timely as I am starting to make our own coconut milk kefir next week. Thanks!

  45. Maggie Mar 04, 2010 at 11:15 am #

    Have you looked into dry coconut milk? Much more cost effective than canned, and, to my knowledge, still contains all the fats and health benefits. I love having it around for smoothies, so easy to just scoop some in. I split a 50lbs (?) order with someone and it’s lasted us an incredibly long time. The details are fuzzy, becuase she did the ordering, but I’m pretty sure it was ordered from Wilderness Family Naturals

    • Lindsay Mar 05, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

      I updated my post to include a response to this question. I personally do not recommend powdered coconut milk. I am not sure how WFN follows the same standard procedures.

  46. Heather Mar 04, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    We cannot get raw milk in our area (unless I buy a share in a cow) so I read this eagerly hoping it would a way we can make kefir. However, it sounds like you have to return the grains to milk at some point in the process or on a regular basis? Am I understanding this correctly?

    • Lindsay Mar 04, 2010 at 11:22 am #

      Yes, that is correct, but you can easily make kefir from regular milk and still get alot of benefits even if it is not raw.

    • Sara Mar 04, 2010 at 12:57 pm #

      Heather, I would highly recommend buying a share or two in a cow. I have been doing it for a year and never regretted it. 30 miles round trip for just myself is a bit extravagant, but I’m worth it!

  47. Carolyn Mar 04, 2010 at 10:32 am #

    Wow! That looks amazing! If only I had the time and patience to make my own coconut milk kefir at home. Thank goodness for So Delicious coconut milk kefir. My dairy-intolerant daughter loves the strawberry flavor. In response to Deborah, diets that are excessively high in protein, are actually unhealthful, and most Americans consume way too much protein. There’s a book based on the largest epidemiological diet study ever done in the world. It’s called The China Study, and it’s a real eye-opener!

  48. Deborah Mar 04, 2010 at 9:13 am #

    I saw some coconut kefir in the health food store recently. I love coconut. It sounded delicious however it seriously lacks protien. It offered 1 gram of protein, where my regular kefir is 11 grams. I just thought I would bring this one drawback to your attention.

  49. Katie Mar 04, 2010 at 8:08 am #

    So am I understanding that this kefir is not tart and tangy, like regular cow’s milk kefir? (because I would never put dairy kefir in my coffee, or whip it up into whipped cream, nor make ice cream out of it!) What flavor does this have? I presume it still adheres to a coconut flavor, but maybe not so sour as kefir. Is it sweet at all?

    Thanks for clearing up my confusion….

    • Lindsay Mar 04, 2010 at 9:31 am #

      No, it is still sour but much more pleasant than cows milk kefir. I can never drink cows milk kefir straight, but this is much more mild. You would add a bit of sweetener to use it for these purposes.

  50. Cori Mar 04, 2010 at 8:06 am #

    I recently found out that my 1 year old is very allergic to coconut milk! Both times she has had it she ended up in the hospital. The first time I thought she just had a nasty bug, but it happened the next time as well. I am super bummed, b/c I was just starting to enjoy the world of coconut milk! Random question, do you know if coconut milk and coconut oil would share the same allergenic reaction?

    • Lindsay Mar 04, 2010 at 9:33 am #

      I would imagine so. I am so sorry! My only thought might be changing brands…but I don’t know if you would want to risk it again.

Leave a Reply